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What were the students like at the Boston Latin School? Did the Great Depression impact such a prestigious school during that time? What was the general feeling and atmosphere?

I was at the Boston Latin School during the seventh grade, all of the seventh and half of the eighth. The Boston Latin School, for those of you that don't know, is a public school in Boston. It was all male, it had great prestige and if you graduated from that school you could go to Harvard without taking an examination or anything. If you wanted to go to Harvard you just did. But if you didn't keep up your grades you had to go to a regular high school. The school was made up—because of the population and the interest in education in Boston—almost half the class were Irish, or of Irish extraction and almost half the class was Jewish. There often was competition, which wasn't all that pleasant, but actually after a while the relationships began to change and there was less hostility. They started in the seventh grade and by the end of the year things changed but they did enter the class with considerable hostility and they gradually mellowed, which was nice. I enjoyed the school it was a great school.

Can you recall any specific experiences where you felt hostility upon arriving there?

The one thing that was not real hostile was when I first arrived and would get up if they asked a question in class. If I wanted to answer it everyone else would put their hands down because they loved to hear the California accent and they'd all roar with laughter. And so in defense you developed a Boston accent. When I came back and went to school with all my old friends here they all laughed at my Boston accent, so I soon got rid of that. The other thing I got ribbed about a lot is when I went to school in Boston I was dressed like we dress out here. I was dressed like we dress out here. I was wearing a sweater and a shirt and everyone at the school was wearing a jacket and tie and most of them were wearing knickers. So I was out of uniform and they thought, "Is that the way they dress in California?" All that kind of stuff. So in defense I had to go get outfitted like they were outfitted.

Why did your family move to Boston?

My father thought that he wanted to retire there because he had a lot of relatives there. He thought that that would be a good place to retire. We got a lovely home and all that sort of thing but he missed San Francisco too much and the people he knew out here so we moved back and I was happy about that.

Can you talk a little about what your father did before he decided to retire?

My father was—you know the the Woolworth Company, the five-and-ten cents stores—he was with them from the beginning. So he was one of the early people in that firm of F W Woolworth. He started at a city at Fall River where there was another firm called E P Charlton and they joined with Woolworth and the whole thing was called the Woolworth Company. And he was the one who came to western Canada and the western United States to open stores for the company. He was in his early twenties when he was doing that. He was very successful in that business.

Did you ever consider taking over his business when he retired?

He was working for another firm and when he retired I was only in the seventh grade. So when he thought he was going to retire he came back and went into business with himself later on. And then I considered going into business with him but decided in favor of medicine, which I don't regret.

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